Friday, April 18, 2025

Timelines

A friend looked me in the eye a while back and asked, "Are you a young-earth creationist?" I told him I believe in a literal six-day creation, but am not so convinced about the "young earth" part. That opened a whole can of worms. 

In the conversation that followed, I mentioned I had once made a spreadsheet compiling the birth dates and ages from the genealogies in Genesis 5 and Genesis 11 to create a chronology. It occurred to me that was a long time ago, so I spent a few hours to recreate it that evening.

And then things got out of hand.

For the last few weeks, I have found myself obsessed with the genealogies in Genesis 5 and 11. I filled a spreadsheet with dates and inferred ages from Adam through Joseph, I have made some timeline charts with multiple scenarios based on the text. I have even read some commentary on it, although I've endeavored to stick to the text without leaning too hard on those commentaries.

I am not exaggerating when  I say I have lost sleep over this.

Face-Value Timeline

Taken at face value, there are some fascinating discoveries in those genealogies.  The young earth position takes those genealogies as a working chronology. My summary looks like this:


Age of FatherBorn (AC)AgeDied (AC)Verse
Adam
0930930Genesis 5:3–5
Seth1301309121042Genesis 5:6–8
Enosh1052359051140Genesis 5:9–11
Kenan903259101235Genesis 5:12–14
Mahalalel703958301225Genesis 5:15–17
Jared654609621422Genesis 5:18–20
Enoch162622365987Genesis 5:21–24
Methuselah656879691656Genesis 5:25–27
Lamech1878747771651Genesis 5:28–31
Noah18210569502006Genesis 5:32–9:28
Shem50215586002158Genesis 11:10
Arpachshad10016584382096Genesis 11:12–13
Shelah3516934332126Genesis 11:14–15
Eber3017234642187Genesis 11:16–17
Peleg3417572391996Genesis 11:18–19
Reu3017872392026Genesis 11:20–21
Serug3218192302049Genesis 11:22–23
Nahor3018491481997Genesis 11:24–25
Terah2918782052083Genesis 11:26–32
Abram7019481752123Genesis 25:1–6
Isaac10020481802228Genesis 21:1–7; 35:28
Jacob6021081472255Genesis 25:26; 47:28
Joseph
22001102310Genesis 41:46 ; 50:26

There are some things to note here. First, we're reading each date as though it were a complete year. It's not hard to imagine that Seth was born near the end of Adam's 130th year, or that Enoch was translated at the start of his 365th year. Those would throw the chronologies off in a rounding error that would accumulate so that the Flood is in 1656 at face value, but could have been several years earlier or later, depending on the accumulation of rounding errors.

Second, Shem's age has been corrected in this table. Genesis 5:32 says that Noah was 500 years old and became the father of Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Then Genesis 7:6 tells us Noah was 600 years old when the Flood came. Then Genesis 11:10 tells us that Shem became the father of Arphachshad two years after the Flood, when he was 100 years old. That makes Shem 98 when the Flood came, born when Noah was 502. The obvious explanation is that Shem was a younger son, not the oldest.

Third, the genealogy gets hard after Isaac. Genesis 25:26 tells us Isaac was 60 years old when Esau and Jacob were born, but no ages are given for Jacob's sons. We know Joseph stood before Pharaoh when he was 30 years old (Genesis 41:46). We know there were seven years of plenty (Genesis 41:47) and Joseph sent for Jacob to join him in Egypt after two years of famine, while there were five years of famine remaining (Genesis 45:6). So Joseph was 39 years old when he sent for Jacob. Jacob met Pharaoh at 130 years old (Genesis 47:9). So if we assume the move to Egypt happened fairly quickly, then Jacob was 130 years old when Joseph was 39 years old, meaning Joseph was born when Jacob was 91 years old. I left that out of the table above, because it's not explicitly given in Scripture.

It's noteworthy that in this timeline, Abram leaves Haran less than 400 years after the Flood, and only 17 years after Noah dies. In fact, Abraham dies before Shem.

 

William Kelly's Revision

But this face-value chronology gives us trouble in Acts 7:4, where Stephen tells us Abram left Haran after his father died. Terah became the father of Abram, Nahor, and Haran when he was 70 years old (Genesis 11:26) and Abram left Haran when he was 75 years old (Genesis 12:4). If we take those two numbers together, then Abram leaves Haran when Terah is 145 years old, a full 60 years before Terah dies.

In the Q & A Section of Bible Treasury, William Kelly addresses the age of Terah when Abram leaves Haran by asserting that Abram was likely Terah's youngest son. If Abram's eldest brother was born when Terah was 70, and Abram himself was born when Terah was 130, then Acts 7:4 and Genesis 12:4 agree.

(Kelly doesn't mention Romans 4:19 or Hebrews 11:12 in connection with this, which is unfortunate. If Abram was born when his father was 130 years old, then he would not expect to be too old to have Isaac when he was only 100 years old. But both Romans and Hebrews emphasize his age as being "as good as dead."  So I'm not convinced Kelly's explanation is the best: it seems to me a better explanation might be that there is an unnamed generation between Terah and Abram, although I recognize that introduces difficulties for the following verses.)

If we adjust the timeline to have Abram leave Haran when Terah dies, all the dates after that adjust by about 60 years.


Age of FatherBorn (AC)AgeDied (AC)Verse
Adam
0930930Genesis 5:3–5
Seth1301309121042Genesis 5:6–8
Enosh1052359051140Genesis 5:9–11
Kenan903259101235Genesis 5:12–14
Mahalalel703958301225Genesis 5:15–17
Jared654609621422Genesis 5:18–20
Enoch162622365987Genesis 5:21–24
Methuselah656879691656Genesis 5:25–27
Lamech1878747771651Genesis 5:28–31
Noah18210569502006Genesis 5:32–9:28
Shem50215586002158Genesis 11:10
Arpachshad10016584382096Genesis 11:12–13
Shelah3516934332126Genesis 11:14–15
Eber3017234642187Genesis 11:16–17
Peleg3417572391996Genesis 11:18–19
Reu3017872392026Genesis 11:20–21
Serug3218192302049Genesis 11:22–23
Nahor3018491481997Genesis 11:24–25
Terah2918782052083Genesis 11:26–32
Abram13020081752183Genesis 25:1–6
Isaac10021081802288Genesis 21:1–7; 35:28
Jacob6021681472315Genesis 25:26; 47:28
Joseph9122591102369Genesis 41:46 ; 50:26

Now we have Abram's birth two years after Noah dies, and Abraham's death 26 years after Shem's. The other patriarchs are all adjusted to about 60 years later, so Isaac is now 50 years old when Shem dies, instead of 110.

I put both these variations into a chart to help visualize the timeline, you can download a PDF.

 


 

Tower of Babel and Other Considerations

Now, I still lean to an old(er) earth. I realize the young earth view works so much better in Genesis 5 and the second half of Genesis 11, but there are other considerations. Let's take Genesis 11:1–9 for example. When is the Tower of Babel? On the chart, I put it half-way through Peleg's life based on Genesis 10:25. But that's only a guess, and possibly a very bad one. It would make more sense for "in his days" to refer to his father Eber, not to Peleg himself. Regardless, Isaac is an old man before Eber dies. That would put Babel in very recent memory during the times of the patriarchs.

Babel couldn't have happened immediately after the Flood, because only eight people survived (1 Peter 3:20). It must have happened long enough after the Flood that there was an available workforce to build the tower. And there must have been enough people that when they were divided into languages, it wasn't only a few people in each language: there were enough to build nations. That suggests a long time – at least several generations – after the Flood.

But we have to place Babel long enough before Abram that the newly-formed Chaldee nation had time to have built cities (Ur and Haran at a minimum) and formed their pagan religions. We know Terah and Abram worshiped idols in Ur  (Genesis 24:1ff): pagan religions were fully formed by Abram's time.

And to further complicate matters: even if we place Abram's birth at two years after Noah's death (William Kelly's date), then Shem is alive well into Isaac's life. That means the pagan societies in Ur, Canaan, and Egypt were built while there were still two people (Noah and Shem) who were personally on the Ark. And it's not like they were the two old men down the street: they were the direct ancestors of the idolaters. 

Again, if we take Kelly's view on the date of Abram's birth, then we have at most 350 years (Noah's death) + 2 years (Abram's birth) + 75 years (Abram's age when he leaves Haran) = 427 years between the Flood and Abram leaving Haran. That's not a lot of time to fit in Babel, the rise of pagan religions, and the building of Ur, Canaan, and Egypt.

But here's the real question: was Noah involved in Babel? Was Shem?  

 

So we come back to my earlier claim: the young earth view works very well when we're considering genealogies, but it doesn't give a lot of room for the world that the non-genealogical passages describe. Genesis 12ff describe a world that has forgotten the Flood, forgotten God, and forgotten Babel. That's difficult to imagine when there are two eye witnesses still alive, and the world's population is largely (in the case of Shem) and entirely (in the case of Noah) descended from them.

I'll point out here that William Shakespeare died a little over 400 years ago, and we still know many, many details of his life. It seems the Flood would have left a memory at least as significant as Shakespeare. When we take into consideration the average lifespan from Arphachshad to Terah is more than 250 years, that just doesn't seem reasonable.

 

Interestingly, Genesis 5 and 11 give ten generations from Adam to Noah, and ten from Noah to Abram. That reminds me of Matthew 1:17.  No one disputes that Matthew skips several names in that genealogy in order to make a point (although I don't know what the point is). I suspect there is something similar going on in the Genesis genealogies. That would suggest the that old(er) earth view implies a purpose in the genealogies over and above history.

 

Doctrinal Implications

But let's also acknowledge the young earth view isn't impossible. It might align more closely with Romans 1 than the old earth idea. They forgot God because they really didn't want to remember Him. 

I don't like exposition based on doctrine: that seems pretty common, but it strikes me as pretty dodgy.  That being said... if I were a preacher, I might find the young earth view irresistible in light of the Pauline epistles. The idea that it takes the human race less than 450 years to forget God, build pagan religions, and do their best to stamp out the memories of the Flood is just too good. Add in Noah's and Shem's actual presence, and you have the world of Genesis 12ff a product of deliberate rebellion against God. That works so well with Romans 1:18ff, it might be impossible to ignore.

Another doctrinal bonus of the young earth view is that God wastes no time in calling Abram. In other words, God moves pretty directly from saving Noah to saving Abram: He's not ignoring the human race for generations at a time. That's not as compelling an argument as it might seem, because there have always been Jobs and Mechizideks and Jethros. Just because the Scripture focuses on the line of Shem, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob doesn't mean there aren't other true believers out there. But it does appeal.

And if I were to allow my speculations absolutely free reign, I might go so far as to suggest (only suggest, mind you) a connection between Melchizidek and Shem. That might be too juicy to let pass.

On the other hand, I find the old earth view attractive because of all the hints in Genesis that there's a lot more going on there. Who were the Nephilim? Was there a pre-Edenic creation? We need to be careful around these questions, it's possible to really mess up someone's faith with them. But just like the young earth view is attractive partly for the conclusions we can draw from it, the old earth view attracts me in part because a whole lot of wild possibility seems to be tied up in it. 

And yes, I recognize Scripture itself cautions us here (1 Timothy 1:4, 4:7, 6:4; Titus 1:14). Pretty much everyone who has ever dug into Genesis has been in danger of falling into what Paul calls "fable" and "myth" here. No matter which view you take, you are getting close to what the New Testament cautions against.

 

Conclusion

In the end, I like the old earth view better, because whenever I read Genesis 12ff, I keep wondering how the world Scripture describes could have arisen in such short time. I feel like Genesis 12ff is describing a world that comes much more than ten generations after the Flood. But it's not something I'm willing to be dogmatic about. The fact is that the God who commanded light to shine out of darkness could very easily have packed much more in the 367 years (or 427 years, if we take Kelly's explanation) between the Flood and Abram than we expect. It's not even close to impossible.

One point Dennis Prager makes (repeatedly) in his commentary on Genesis is that the Bible's goal isn't to give us a detailed history, it's to teach wisdom. Prager is Jewish, so he has slightly different starting assumptions. But we could take his quote and change it a bit to say that Genesis isn't interested in history, it's interested in Christ. History matters, but only as a means to an end. 

So there is a tension here: we need to read the Word of God carefully, and try to really see what it's saying. At the same time, we need to be careful we don't lose sight of the real point, which is the revelation of God to man. Ultimately, that's in Jesus Christ (Hebrews 1:1–4). 

If we take the genealogies in Genesis as a chronology, then we can see some glaring evidence of our need of God in how quickly we turned from Him following the Flood.

If we don't see those genealogies as a chronology, then we have to conclude they are curated in order to drive home the point God is making in Genesis. From the very start, He has been interested in honoring His Son, and revealing God in Him. As a result, even something as simple as a genealogy is presented to drive that home.

 

 

 


Friday, April 11, 2025

Glory days

I first heard about cargo cults when I read Richard Feynman's book "Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!". He attacks cargo cult science near the end of the book, which is a phrase he uses to describe "science" that's really an imitation of science: an outward show without any real substance. That phrase has been brought into software development as "Cargo cult programming," used to describe a [presumably more junior] programmer imitating code written by a more senior programmer because it's known to work, although the imitator doesn't understand how or why it works. 

The story of the cargo cult grabs our attention because we recognize in it an all-too-human tendency to develop superstitions to explain events, and to latch on to them in practice to try and produce results we want. We all do this, all the time. I never go hunting without checking out this one spot where I have never shot an elk, because I know a guy who got a monster elk in that spot. I have no idea why the elk was there: was it an unseasonably hot day? an unseasonably cool day? was it particularly dry that day? was the elk just randomly wandering there? or was it going to a specific destination? I have no idea, but I do not allow an elk season to pass where I haven't spent at least some time waiting in that spot for a huge elk to wander through.

 

It seems to me there's a whole lot of "cargo cult Christianity" going on. Remember the "prayer of Jabez" craze? I didn't dig too deeply into that one, but from what I could tell at the time, it was very much "cargo cult Christianity."

A few years ago, I was visiting a church where the pastor was talking about Daniel 9:1–19. He spent the entire time talking about "remarkable prayers," and it took a while for me to understand that he wasn't very interested in the state of Daniel's heart, or of the God Daniel knew. He was interested in coming up with "the right prayer" we should pray. It's possible I missed his point entirely, but sitting in the congregation, I understood him to say that if we could just get the prayer formula correct, there would be results. 

 

I think the whole "cargo cult" idea explains some of what I have seen around "brethren." We don't set up airstrips in the jungle, but we do develop checklists, and we seem to think as long as we keep checking items off those lists, then we'll prosper spiritually.  Our lists might include women covering their heads, praying with "thee" and "thou," not having a pastor, or even having the right books on our bookshelves – although reading those books seems to carry much less weight than shelving them. 

Of course, not all "brethren" are guilty of that sort of thing; but an uncomfortably large number are.

These checklists are a lot more like the priests of Baal on Carmel than they are like Elijah (1 Kings 18:17ff). This is treating God like a household idol, rather than the creator of the universe. This isn't looking to honor God as God (Romans 1:21), it's trying to manipulate Him. Idols can be manipulated, God cannot.

We have forgotten what Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego told Nebuchadnezzar: 

O Nebuchadnezzar, we do not need to respond to you with an answer concerning this matter. If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to save us from the furnace of blazing fire; and He will save us out of your hand, O king. But if not, let it be known to you, O king, that we are not going to serve your gods, and we will not worship the golden image that you have set up. (Daniel 3:16–18, LSB)

They didn't assume God would save them. They said they were unwilling to sin against God, whether He saved them or not. This is honoring God as God, not treating Him like an idol.

 

There's an interesting story in 2 Kings 14:1–22, the story of Amaziah. Amaziah's father had been deposed and assassinated (2 Kings 12:20–21). When Amaziah secured his place as king of Judah, he put to death those who had killed his father, but he didn't put their families to death, because the Law of Moses forbade punishing sons for the sins of their fathers or fathers for the sins of their sons (2 Kings 14:5–6; Deuteronomy 24:16).

To me the most interesting feature of Amaziah's reign is that he obeyed Deuteronomy 24:16. As far as I can tell, he's the first person in the Old Testament to do so. There's no lack of apparently godly people in the Old Testament who violate this command without a second thought. We might think of David handing over the sons of Saul to the Gibeonites (2 Samuel 21:1–14). We might think of Achan's sons and daughters (Joshua 7:22ff).  Up until Amaziah, the kings and rulers of Israel seem to ignore this command entirely.

We might be tempted to think there's some sort of mistake here. How can God bless David, when he sins against God in the matter of Saul's sons? How can God bless Asa when the high places were not removed (1 Kings 15:14)? These are questions we need to ask, because they strike at the heart of so many of our failures.

When God blesses, we are apt to look for a cause outside of His goodness. We fail to learn the lesson of Deuteronomy 9:4–5. When God blesses, it's not because we earned it. It's because that's who He is: He is the God constantly on the lookout for the slightest excuse to bless us.

So when God blessed those early "brethren," it wasn't because they checked items off the list. It wasn't even because they had the right list. 

 

Now, it's true that God seems to bless most freely where hearts are wholly devoted to Him (1 Kings 15:14). But we should think very carefully on that. It is true that Scripture doesn't condone our claiming to love God while at the same time refusing to obey Him (John 14:15, etc.). At the same time, there's nothing more common in Scripture than someone who loves God and fails to walk up to His standard. God seems to be much more concerned with our hearts than even our actions. That's worth some time and meditation.

If we really want to make a checklist, we should put "a heart wholly devoted to God" at the top. (It can go above "women need to cover their heads" and "don't have a pastor," it really is that important.) And then we should focus on checking off that one item. We might find we spend our entire lives working on just that first item, and we might find we don't really need to worry about the rest. More likely, if we focus on that one item, we might find there are others that seem to be checked off without our noticing. A heart wholly devoted to God has some surprising side effects.

But we don't do that, because we find it easier to manage a list of superficial things than to work on the one substantial thing. We'd frankly rather be like Pharisees and worry about external minutiae than be like Peter who followed the Lord very badly.


And just to be clear, it seems obvious to me that Scripture does command women to cover their heads in the congregation. It seems obvious to me that Scripture really doesn't advocate having clergy. Really, I think "brethren" are correct about all those things. 

But these checklists we develop are only superficial things, they don't get to the heart of what made the "Brethren movement" great. It was an understanding of the Gospel as God's power for salvation. It was the firm conviction that God justifies the one who does not work, but believes. It was the recognition that those who are "in Christ" are separated from who and what we were in Adam. It was recognizing that Christ is coming back, much sooner than we think. These are the things that resulted in the "glory days" we all want to experience. These were the things of substance, not superficiality. 

God isn't waiting for just the right incantation before He'll act. He's not waiting for us to get to that really important item on the checklist. That's what idols do: that's not the God we worship.

What "brethren" got right were not so much the externals as the internals. They got a glimpse of the God of grace, and shared that glimpse with others. They saw just a tiny bit of His heart in sending His Son, and they did their best to help others see it. They saw that Christ is coming from Heaven for us, and they told others about it.

 

If we need an action item – if we need a to-do list – I'll suggest this: let's work on looking on the Lord's glory with unveiled faces while He changes us to be like Him (2 Corinthians 3:18). And we fully expect to find ourselves walking very badly with Him, but it's better to walk with Him badly than to be out there on our own. And when He blesses us in spite of our high places, let's just thank Him for His grace, and not look for some righteousness in ourselves to explain His blessing.