tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post5459516515665613822..comments2024-02-27T06:42:59.658-08:00Comments on Assembly Quest: Suretyclumsy oxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11698216739528209499noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-89367869651601903252017-02-08T20:37:44.576-08:002017-02-08T20:37:44.576-08:00(I append this to your last comment, Robert, and c...(I append this to your last comment, Robert, and commend to all of Mark's readers the unique and wonderful ministry of GV Wigram:<br />"No measure short of Christ and the church is our gospel; and God is acting upon that truth, and I do most simply, therefore, ask that I may find grace in his sight, not only to know Himself and His truth, but to know myself livingly associated with Him Rodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16969410710374086733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-37982322994843519062017-01-29T12:47:16.675-08:002017-01-29T12:47:16.675-08:00Agreed! May we each, by His grace, continue to hol...Agreed! May we each, by His grace, continue to hold fast the Head, and know the increase of God (Colossians 2:19), a mutual and substantial reality, in these days of look-alikes and knock-offs. Rodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16969410710374086733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-82502064122467940162017-01-29T09:40:07.257-08:002017-01-29T09:40:07.257-08:00Yes -- wonderful fellowship.
Show me Thy ways, O ...Yes -- wonderful fellowship.<br /><br />Show me Thy ways, O LORD;<br />teach me Thy paths.<br />Lead me in Thy truth, and teach me:<br />for Thou art the God of my salvation;<br />on Thee do I wait all the day.<br /> (Psalm 25:4-5)HandWrittenWordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04297262231718600348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-57364961621180451742017-01-29T05:53:51.827-08:002017-01-29T05:53:51.827-08:00The feeling is mutual. So thankful for the minist...The feeling is mutual. So thankful for the ministry and fellowship here. <br />Ephesians 4:12,13<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-62063371249803976832017-01-29T01:38:20.903-08:002017-01-29T01:38:20.903-08:00Joshua - those are very helpful comments. Thank yo...Joshua - those are very helpful comments. Thank you.<br /><br />Everyone - this fellowship we have had in these postings is surely an example of Ephesians 4:16 - maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love. Robertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-75085457598436704402017-01-28T12:17:20.256-08:002017-01-28T12:17:20.256-08:00Thank you. That was very helpful.
Susan
Thank you. That was very helpful.<br />Susan<br /> <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-91775081197478129392017-01-28T10:49:01.228-08:002017-01-28T10:49:01.228-08:00Dear Robert& Susan. ,
Though the church does...Dear Robert& Susan. ,<br /><br />Though the church doesn't enjoy the material & blessings of the New Covenant , I understand the Church enjoys ACTUAL SPIRITUAL BLESSINGS of the New Covenant , not Similar Ones.<br /><br />The Old Covenant made at Sinai dealt with the responsibility of man. It was conditional and demanded obedience from men. But the mind of the flesh is not subject toAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-75914104799805145732017-01-28T09:42:27.433-08:002017-01-28T09:42:27.433-08:00Susan
Apologies in advance if I don't answer y...Susan<br />Apologies in advance if I don't answer your question. I'm not quite sure what you mean.<br /><br />There are number of distinctions between the blessings of the church and Israel. The church is given now, 'every spiritual blessing in heavenly places in Christ' Ephesians 1:3. The background to the terms of the new covenant in Jeremiah 31 is territorial and material Robertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-78741135810842832632017-01-28T04:38:51.312-08:002017-01-28T04:38:51.312-08:00"There are many covenants in Scripture, but t..."There are many covenants in Scripture, but the old and new are distinct, and with Israel only."JND So..........In your understanding does the church share the actual spiritual blessngs of the New Covenant now or do you see the church's spiritual blessings as similar to Israel's future spiritual blessings? <br />SusanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-81971378331978424092017-01-27T07:01:01.518-08:002017-01-27T07:01:01.518-08:00In agreement with Susan -- glorious comment from R...In agreement with Susan -- glorious comment from Robert indeed!<br /><br />Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.<br />But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord. (2 Corinthians 3:17-18)<br /><br />HandWrittenWordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04297262231718600348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-33920965533184657792017-01-27T06:25:41.952-08:002017-01-27T06:25:41.952-08:00"What we look at, we will eventually become!&..."What we look at, we will eventually become!" Glorious comment Robert!<br />HandWrittenWord - Love the Scriptures! Do I know you? Susan<br /><br />http://bibletruthpublishers.com/the-ministry-of-new-covenant/christian-friend-volume-7/la87143<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-25940698013901946612017-01-27T06:16:14.257-08:002017-01-27T06:16:14.257-08:00For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from hea...For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: so shall My Word be that goeth forth out of My mouth: it shall not return unto Me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.<br />HandWrittenWordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04297262231718600348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-65638394547665437552017-01-26T15:32:38.774-08:002017-01-26T15:32:38.774-08:00I hesitate to take up more space on Mark's blo...I hesitate to take up more space on Mark's blog but would make the following brief comments on 2 Corinthians 3. Chapter 3 is the ministry and chapter 4 tells us about the life of the minister. Then chapter 5 tells us of a further ministry, that of reconciliation. <br /><br />The old covenant demanded righteousness from men, and men found no matter how much they tried that they could not Robertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-3265879472846769422017-01-26T14:50:21.087-08:002017-01-26T14:50:21.087-08:00There is much help here, for any who are intereste...There is much help here, for any who are interested: http://www.stempublishing.com/authors/darby/DOCTRINE/03002E.html , but some discussion would also be appreciated.Rodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16969410710374086733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-65934259454437589862017-01-26T14:45:50.654-08:002017-01-26T14:45:50.654-08:00Looks like you might have an epic comment discussi...Looks like you might have an epic comment discussion on your hands, Mark. Obviously something many of us are interested in.<br /><br />Using JND's comment as a springboard ("There would not be a ministry if we were under it." This comment is always on my mind when I think of the new covenant. Thanks for sharing, Joshua), could someone give some help as to the ministry of the new Rodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16969410710374086733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-26417622370023917542017-01-26T11:29:22.884-08:002017-01-26T11:29:22.884-08:00Dear Sister Susan,
Thank you. I'm also not kn...Dear Sister Susan,<br /><br />Thank you. I'm also not knowledgeable as the other guys commenting here. I have learnt & enjoyed a lot from this site and this blog has really been a blessing to me.<br /><br />JoshuaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-43390888195541657462017-01-26T09:56:39.493-08:002017-01-26T09:56:39.493-08:00Thank you Joshua. I'm not as knowledgeable o...Thank you Joshua. I'm not as knowledgeable on this subject as you guys, and I appreciate you all. <br />Learning as I am growing<br />In Christ,<br />Susan<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-64025076979616932342017-01-26T09:34:01.685-08:002017-01-26T09:34:01.685-08:00Dear Sister Susan,
From What I could understand ...Dear Sister Susan,<br /><br /> From What I could understand I think WRN concludes that the New Covenant of Heb 8 is the Eternal Covenant of Heb 13.<br />Though I agree with first part of your comment , I disagree with the latter.<br /><br />His statement <i>" God never made a covenant with human race"</i> is against Gen 9:8-16 .<br /><b> And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with himJoshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08991422635582361170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-10605147110148081472017-01-26T06:54:44.274-08:002017-01-26T06:54:44.274-08:001. There was the old covenant with Israel, called ...1. There was the old covenant with Israel, called in Heb.<br />9:1 "The first covenant"; THIS IS OFF.<br /> 2. There is to be made "a New Covenant with the house of<br />Israel and with the house of Judah" (Ch. 8:8-12). THIS IS NOT YET<br />ON.<br /> Therefore Israel and Judah are out of all covenant<br />relationship with Jehovah at present. (And remember God was Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-26859386063314670482017-01-26T06:07:30.779-08:002017-01-26T06:07:30.779-08:00At that time Jesus answered and said, "I than...At that time Jesus answered and said, "I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes.<br />Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight.<br />All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and HandWrittenWordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04297262231718600348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-39543291358673920752017-01-26T01:58:20.505-08:002017-01-26T01:58:20.505-08:00Dear Bro.Mark,
Though Eternal Covenant & Ev...Dear Bro.Mark,<br /><br /> Though Eternal Covenant & Everlasting Covenant are one & the same, I think they donot refer to the New Covenant.<br />No Scripture including Heb.13:20 calls eternal( rendered as everlasting in W.Kelly's translation) covenant as New covenant. I think the emphasis in Heb.13 is not on the Eternal Covenant rather on the BLOOD of the Eternal Covenant. The Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-56056082001893631942017-01-26T01:16:49.198-08:002017-01-26T01:16:49.198-08:00"New testament" (v. 6) is the "new ..."New testament" (v. 6) is the "new covenant," which we find also in Jeremiah 31; it is new in contrast with the old. It is characterised by the forgiveness of sins, and a man no more teaching his neighbour. Then the prophet says, that they shall no more say, "Know the Lord, for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them." The two chief Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-20617797117541786672017-01-26T00:54:55.083-08:002017-01-26T00:54:55.083-08:00 Some helpful comments from JND:
A livin... Some helpful comments from JND:<br /><br /> A living Messiah was the crown of glory for the Jews; but, if He is lifted up from the earth, He draws all men. His broken body is the door for sinners from the Gentiles. On this the heart of the Christian is nourished, not merely as on manna come down from heaven, which typifies Jesus, a man upon earth, nor on Jesus in the heavens (where we Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-27723805867948954072017-01-25T07:48:29.917-08:002017-01-25T07:48:29.917-08:00If I thought of the world primarily as "the p...If I thought of the world primarily as "the place where Christ died", I would see it very differently. I dare say it would attract me much less.clumsy oxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11698216739528209499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-24790494828959363542017-01-25T06:40:12.402-08:002017-01-25T06:40:12.402-08:00Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and...Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and His ways past finding out!<br /><br />"For who has known known the mind of the LORD?<br /> Or who had become His counselor?"<br />"Or who has first given to Him<br /> And it shall be repaid to him?"<br /><br />For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to HandWrittenWordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04297262231718600348noreply@blogger.com