tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post7361506500343996286..comments2024-02-27T06:42:59.658-08:00Comments on Assembly Quest: Cessationismclumsy oxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11698216739528209499noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-66665038740566485872017-02-26T14:35:36.958-08:002017-02-26T14:35:36.958-08:00"it is never promised that miraculous works s... "it is never promised that miraculous works should continue. But in Eph. 4 gifts are not spoken of as coming from the Holy Ghost, but you get what are edification-gifts there, and they will endure "till we all come," etc., and that is never said of miraculous gifts such as tongues and healing. You never find the apostles healing any of their own friends who were sick: "Susannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-36180837760235011152017-02-26T14:34:37.036-08:002017-02-26T14:34:37.036-08:00"it is never promised that miraculous works s... "it is never promised that miraculous works should continue. But in Eph. 4 gifts are not spoken of as coming from the Holy Ghost, but you get what are edification-gifts there, and they will endure "till we all come," etc., and that is never said of miraculous gifts such as tongues and healing. You never find the apostles healing any of their own friends who were sick: "Susannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-52829333145552047082017-02-26T14:32:41.182-08:002017-02-26T14:32:41.182-08:00"it is never promised that miraculous works s... "it is never promised that miraculous works should continue. But in Eph. 4 gifts are not spoken of as coming from the Holy Ghost, but you get what are edification-gifts there, and they will endure "till we all come," etc., and that is never said of miraculous gifts such as tongues and healing. You never find the apostles healing any of their own friends who were sick: "Susannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-59409313561409821882016-09-03T19:09:43.018-07:002016-09-03T19:09:43.018-07:00"But not only does the Lord now assert and ma..."But not only does the Lord now assert and maintain His power over every spiritual foe, but He can arrest and determine every bodily afflictionwhich befalls any of His people. He is head over all things to the church which is His body. And He often does. I believe the miracles which were done by the Apostles in the Acts were directly from the Lord. No doubt many of them were called for on Rodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16969410710374086733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-69708203167752894752016-08-12T02:44:06.015-07:002016-08-12T02:44:06.015-07:00Dennett, The Step I have taken, on 1 Cor 14:
Few,...Dennett, The Step I have taken, on 1 Cor 14:<br /><br />Few, I suppose, would dispute that such was the order in the primitive Church; but it is a common argument—I have used it myself to get out of the difficulty; and if you recollect, you used it when we last met and talked over the subject—that all gifts ceased with the apostolic age, and hence that these directions as to gifts have no force Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-62247385128750606002016-07-10T05:42:52.749-07:002016-07-10T05:42:52.749-07:00I would have thought that on the basis of the stat...I would have thought that on the basis of the statement in 1 Corinthians ch. 13:8 that we should all be cessationists!<br /><br />If chapter 12 teaches that the purpose of all gift is edification, chapter 14 teaches that edification can only come through understanding. Those who had the gift of speaking in tongues are instructed in v.5 that they were to commence self-regulation of their gift. Robert Thomsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-64325072645848903972016-07-06T12:13:21.833-07:002016-07-06T12:13:21.833-07:00I don't believe spiritual gifts are dependent ...I don't believe spiritual gifts are dependent on conduct <i>per se</i>. Ephesians 4:7–16 talks about Christ giving gifts as He sees fit, 1 Corinthians 12:1–11 talks about the Holy Spirit giving gifts as He sees fit: neither on mentions our conduct. Indeed, the Corinthians were in a remarkably immoral state, and yet "came behind in no gift" (1 Corinthians 1:7).<br /><br />I am not a clumsy oxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11698216739528209499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-37461711598261260772016-07-05T09:53:09.867-07:002016-07-05T09:53:09.867-07:00I don't know Clement
Back in Darby's day ...I don't know Clement<br /><br />Back in Darby's day Sir Robert Anderson had this to say:<br />http://www.newble.co.uk/anderson/gifts.html<br /><br />Today this warning needs to be heard!<br /><br />Susan<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-24076901203188127832016-07-05T07:05:18.695-07:002016-07-05T07:05:18.695-07:00Question: is the above quotation from H. A. Ironsi...Question: is the above quotation from H. A. Ironside true? Are really the gifts given to the Church on the basis of its conduct on the earth?<br />I would have said that the gifts are given to the church on the basis of the victory of Christ on the cross and His ascension on high at the right hand of God. "Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-46995680779597088632016-07-01T18:32:10.202-07:002016-07-01T18:32:10.202-07:00Interesting Mark - Hey H. A. Ironside was not a ce...Interesting Mark - Hey H. A. Ironside was not a cessationist either:<br /> "There are commentators who insist that some of these gifts have absolutely disappeared, but I do not know of any Scripture portion that tells us that. I do not know of any passage that says that the age of miracles has passed and I would not dare to say that the sign gifts all ended with Paul’s imprisonment. I know Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-28597755431744077782016-07-01T15:26:41.695-07:002016-07-01T15:26:41.695-07:00@Anonymous, while I am definitely not cessationist...@Anonymous, while I am definitely not cessationist, I've only ever seen one case that complied to 1 Corinthians 14:26-34. I think the "one at a time and no more than 2 or 3" (v. 27) alone would effectively shut down almost every meeting I've seen among those who practice tongues, etc.clumsy oxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11698216739528209499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-60265906790459314372016-07-01T11:14:00.170-07:002016-07-01T11:14:00.170-07:00I do believe however that most of what we're s...I do believe however that most of what we're seeing out there today would be from The CounterfeiterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-10852453008220424592016-06-30T13:07:07.183-07:002016-06-30T13:07:07.183-07:00(Here is one instance of Dr. Jones quoting JND: ht...(Here is one instance of Dr. Jones quoting JND: https://icommendjoy.com/2008/05/06/martyn-lloyd-jones-daily-readings/)Rodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16969410710374086733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-34030965205505257872016-06-29T03:57:01.427-07:002016-06-29T03:57:01.427-07:00interesting.....do we need to rethink???interesting.....do we need to rethink???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-60587829245073792452016-06-28T18:54:31.321-07:002016-06-28T18:54:31.321-07:00I am watching in aweI am watching in aweclumsy oxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11698216739528209499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-55105177847246598162016-06-27T13:12:25.548-07:002016-06-27T13:12:25.548-07:00^That sounds like a fascinating combination of ele...^That sounds like a fascinating combination of elements. Just when I thought AssemblyQuest couldn't get any more unconventional...Rodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16969410710374086733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6083552635566549294.post-58131687130838264052016-06-25T13:32:42.749-07:002016-06-25T13:32:42.749-07:00Martyn Lloyd-Jones uses JND in his non-cessationis...Martyn Lloyd-Jones uses JND in his non-cessationist book, the title of which I have forgotten!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com