Friday, March 24, 2023

Not all who say

Once again I've heard someone appealing to Matthew 7:21–23 to convince an audience that if their works don't line up with their professions, they're not "truly saved."  I've heard this line of reasoning more than once, and I have to admit I find it puzzling. It makes me scratch my head. After all, the ones Christ rejects in those verses are the very ones who appeal to their works in order to prove they're His (Matthew 7:22). 


22 comments:

NicW said...

November 19

THE WALK IN CHRIST

"As therefore ye received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in Him, rooted and builded up in Him, and stablished in your faith, even as ye were taught, abounding in thanksgiving."-CoL. ii. 6,7.

HERE again we have the two kinds of life. The first is described in the words, "Ye have received Christ Jesus." That includes conversion, forgiveness of sin through the blood of Jesus Christ, and acceptance as a child of God. Then comes the second, the walk in Christ, "rooted in Him," as a tree that must each moment receive its life from the earth in order to bear fruit. "Builded up in Him," who is the only foundation. "Stablished in your faith and abounding in it," by which each day the Christian by his walk and conversation proves that he abides and lives in Christ. As the roots of a tree receive life uninterruptedly from the soil, so the Christian receives his life and power moment by moment from abiding in Christ.

In the confessions of Faith drawn up by the Reformers, prominence is given to conversion, acceptance of Christ. "Justification" and "justified" are words in frequent use. But the word "sanctification" is rarely found. Emphasis is laid on the doctrine of forgiveness of sin, of faith in Christ as our righteousness before God, but we find little about Christ living in us, and our life being rooted in Him.

Let us thank God for the Reformation as a time when the foundation truth of a crucified Saviour was laid, but at the same time let us go on to perfection, to a daily uninterrupted walk in Christ wherein we may abound in faith, experiencing the abundance of daily. The earliest description of true godliness is in the words: grace from the fulness there is in Christ for us to enjoy "Enoch walked with God." So Christians must learn to walk in Christ daily, established in the faith and abounding in it.

God's best secrets, Andrew Murray

NicW said...

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/merovingians/images/thomas.jpg

Picture of french aristocrat as child who is second beast.

https://youtu.be/LIn6sdBKSzk

Amazon commercial with second beast portrayal.

https://youtu.be/krFohHX8WeU

Tribulation survival and witchcraft. Yellow jackets premiers on the same weekend king Charles goes to France. The wilderness is where John sees mystery Babylon riding the beast in Rev 17.3

So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

Yellow jackets is a retelling of Lord of the flies

First season Adam Martin(Mars) character that is murdered appears to portray king Charles(first beast)

In the second season(great trib)There's a horned stag god(cernunnos) that represents the second beast and man of sin. The yellow jackets are his worshippers

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cernunnos

In ancient Celtic and Gallo-Roman religion, Cernunnos or Carnonos is a god depicted with antlers, seated cross-legged, and is associated with stags

The Plantard crest has 11 bees

In the Amazon commercial the second beast is dancing wearing a yellow jacket

Symbolic messages in media are how occultists communicate

Robert said...

NicW The last sentence of your first post, ‘So Christians must learn to walk in Christ daily, established in the faith and abounding in it, is at odds with your second post! There is nothing in that post to establish me in the faith or make me abound in it. And not a mention of Christ. It is Gnostic mumbo jumbo.

And Prince Charles has cancelled his tour of France so that’s your prophetic timeline messed up!

Susan said...

Robert - conspiracy nonsense!!!

Susan said...

Just sending a friendly warning NicW...The websites you're looking at may have some good articles from the early PB's etc. to convince people of their bad conspiracy theories.

clumsy ox said...

We were called to turn to God from idols, to serve the living and true God, and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead (1 Thessalonians 1:9–10). We await a new Heaven and a new earth, wherein dwells righteousness (2 Peter 3:13).

We aren't waiting for judgment, the man of sin, or the final apostasy. We're waiting for Him.

I think we're better off looking for Christ (who is coming for us) than looking for antichrist.

NicW said...

https://youtu.be/p1XdLEX-5CY

https://i.etsystatic.com/30874317/r/il/331fae/3668053811/il_340x270.3668053811_4h6q.jpg

The symbol repeatedly shown in yellow jackets is an unfinished hexagram which is the mark of the beast. Which is also reminiscent of the freemason square and compass.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_and_Compasses

https://watch-unto-prayer.org/mark.html

Susan said...

NicW

https://www.therefinersfire.org/challenging_janet_moser.htm

Susan Welch said...

not recommending the website but using the link above to expose this mumbo jumbo

NicW said...

In that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say to you. Whatever ye shall ask the Father in my name he will give it you. Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask and ye shall receive that your joy may be full (John 16-23, 24)

What did our Lord mean when He said. "In that day ye shall ask me nothing." This was what the disciples had been doing while He was with them upon the earth; they always went to Him as their blessed and gracious Saviour, and were quite right in doing so. Yet He said they had asked nothing in His name.

But had they not been using the Lord's prayer the some year? Certainly they had: and yet they had asked nothing in His name. Now He says to them, you are going to be placed on new ground-no longer to be coming to Me and asking Me, but asking the Father and asking in My name

What is meant by asking in Christ's name? Is it simply saying, "for Christ's sake" at the end of a prayer? No. The meaning seems no less than this: that, by virtue of redemption when accomplished, and by the Holy Spirit uniting them to the Lord Jesus in heaven, they would be placed in the same position as Himself. Therefore it is said in 1 John 4, "As he is, so are we in this world" And in 1 Cor. 6, "He that is joined to the Lord is one spirit." This may illustrate the meaning of asking in the name of the Lord Jesus. or rather of the ground upon which it rest.

It is not merely to ask the Father in the consciousness of all their sins being put away, and of their being actually brought nigh to God, and in full enjoyment of His favor, without a question or cloud between Him and their souls: but going to the Father and making application to Him as standing in the full possession and the full blessing to which Christ above, and the Holy Spirit below, should entitle them in that day: this is asking the Father in the Son's name.

The Lord had given the prayer already and the disciples had been using it. Yet He intimates to them here that there is a new position into which they had to be placed, and that the old ground would no longer do. Their position being changed by the gift of the Holy Spirit, prayer must now take its form from the new standing, the full grace into which they were to be brought at Pentecost.

But what is the effect of believers now patting themselves back into the state of disciples under the law and before redemption was accomplished? They never can know what it is to have settled peace: they cannot take the place of worshippers once purged, having no more conscience of sins. In a word, they forfeit, as far as testimony and enjoyment go, the vast and entire sum of blessing which the Lord Jesus' death, resurrection, and ascension have procured for them.

May we by faith rise above our natural thoughts and become thoroughly "rooted and built up in him, and established in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding with thanksgiving" (Col. 2:7). JN. Darby
Position papers vol 1 p149

NicW said...

The antichrist rules as God from Israel. The symbol of Israel is his mark. 2 Thess 2.4, Zech 11.15-17

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_Solomon

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/788679/jewish/Star-of-David-The-Mystical-Significance.htm

NicW said...

Especially with these judicial reform protests youll see the symbol plastered all over the place

https://abcnews.go.com/International/israels-airport-departures-suspended-amid-public-outcry-prime/story?id=98144543

And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

The real gathering of Israel will be after the tribulation when Christ sets up the kingdom Isaiah 11

Anonymous said...

Oh brother!

Robert said...

NicW I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that you don’t intend to annoy the readers of the blog with these posts. They have no bearing on Mark’s original post. The man who taught us about Antichrist - the apostle John - does not identify who he is, so you are at best wasting our time with this stuff because it is all speculation.

Robert said...

This is one of your shortest posts Mark, perhaps you could expand a little on what is on your mind.

Matthew 7 vs.17-20 discusses fruit. Fruit comes from the root. Colossians 1:5,6 ‘the word of the truth of the gospel…bringeth forth fruit’. The word of truth is the seed that results in fruit and growth. Therefore, is the Lord not warning that the people He will reject in a future day did not have the root of the gospel in them? Although they will appeal to the things they did in His name, He will say, ‘I never knew you’ - no root. ‘Ye that work iniquity’ - no fruit.

I once attended gospel tent meetings with my grandfather when I was 16. When the meeting was over, he said most evangelists are keen to stress how the journey starts but God is interested in how it continues and how it ends.

NicW said...

(3/31)

We are prepared to believe the symbol is good and associated with the God of Israel. But it appears to be originally from Egypt and represents Saturn(Amos 5.26, Acts 7.43). Tattoos are spiritual and associate the person to the symbol that they are tattooed to. In Jewish(etc) mysticism the symbol is regarded as spiritual union with God(Saturn/Satan). That's what the two interlocking triangles represent. Taking the tattoo is about spiritual union with Satan and the antichrist like we have spiritual union with Christ.

"In Ritual Magick, the hexagon is called the Seal of Solomon, and represents Divine Union, being composed of a female, watery triangle, and a male, fiery triangle. The traditional elemental triangles of earth, air, water, and fire are derived from the seal. When the points of a hexagram are connected, a hexagon is formed. Kabbalistically, the hexagram represents the Sefirah Tifaret, perfection..."

You also hear a lot of about mental illness these days and the big part of that is the antichrist with come with a promise of healing spiritual infirmity.
There is only co-crucifixion and resurrection with Christ that can heal us from the corruption of the fall and he'll make good on that when he comes.

There is the androgynous spiritual healer named Lottie(free man) Matthews(Healer gospel/Matt 8.17) in yellow jackets that depicts how that's going to go in the tribulation by occult intercourse rituals and spiritual healing in the antichrist religion.

"Who the F*** is Lottie?"(mystery) is about spiritual fornication with the antichrist

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=72p9zKEdgtU

Yellow jackets is a remake of the Lord of the flies which is what the name Beelzebub means.

Susan said...

Robert - You're very kind.

NicW -Enough already!!!

clumsy ox said...

@NicW - I know I've said this before: we're waiting for the Son of God from Heaven, not the beast from the sea.

For your own sake, please step away from this stuff. For ours, please stop posting it here.

-mark

Susan said...

thank you Mark.

Anonymous said...

I should have said something earlier. Thanks for your patience.

Caleb said...

I find it interesting when you examine "do the will of my Father" what the will of the Father is.

And this is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He gave a commandment to us. 1 John 3:23 LSB

The Father's will is that we believe.

NicW said...

"He saw whose eye the church's Lord prized most was gone. First love means personal love. It is not mere faith in the work of Christ, or consciousness of standing in the favour of God, or a righteous walk before Him; though the soul lacks power in all where "first love" is wanting. What the Lord values most is the heart's longings to see and to be with Him, a desire which rises paramount to all else, which gives tone and colour to the whole life. This is the true waiting for Him, not the dry and unfruitful assent of the understanding to the doctrine, but the power of the truth filling the soul. This Ephesus had lost.

And Christ, so jealous of all our affections, says that all else is worthless without it. "Repent and do the first works." Orthodoxy, intelligence, zeal, cannot take the place of personal affection to Christ. Even if there could be holiness without "first love" as a spring in the soul, it would need to be repented of; but there can be no first works apart from first love. "Else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent." This warning is not repeated to the remaining churches. Why? Because the candlestick was removed in consequence of the Ephesus-state. The church never regained her pristine condition and aspect. The loss of "first love" extinguished her brightest light. She abandoned the posture of "waiting for the Son from heaven." And having put her candle under a bushel the candlestick Was removed; it was no longer needed. So it was that the church ceased to be the reflex of the True Light; and she could have no light of her own apart from Him." BT vol 14 p69